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zab Joined: 28 May 2012 Posts: 6 | zab Hi guys, I hope that this thread is still alive! Following 'Shirk' excellent advices and tips, I successfully built FASM 1.70.02 on my OSX machines (32-bits and 64-bits). I want to share the binary with everyone interested on programming with FASM under OSX (see USAGE file). QUESTION for 'Tomasz Grysztar': 'Shrink' provided a patch (fasm-fix-out-of-memory-lion.diff.txt) which allow to compile FASM on OSX. Any chance to get it commited to FASM source code? Thanks Zab
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| 29 May 2012, 21:20 |
STLVNUB Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 | STLVNUB |
| 30 May 2012, 04:31 |
Shirk Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 10 | Shirk Uh, this got sticky - nice Apparently I'm back to my pet os project, back to fasm and we still need the patched version. (checked no path in 1.70.3 or 1.71 previews). Not sure if Tomasz reads this forum / has interest in the patch but big thanks to zab for providing the binaries! Maybe someone could mail him? |
| 24 Sep 2012, 17:03 |
Tomasz Grysztar Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 7873 Location: Kraków, Poland | Tomasz Grysztar I cannot approve such kind of fix. If that one relocation is processed incorrectly then the other relocations also cannot be trusted and it is inherently unsafe to try fixing it this way. One should rather search for the real source of the problem, that is the underlying bug related to relocations - and report it. |
| 24 Sep 2012, 17:21 |
Shirk Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 10 | Shirk Hi Tomasz, please don't get me wrong - my post was in no way meant to insult anyone. It was just written in a challenging tone to lure an answer out of you. I agree that the real fix would be to determine why this one relocation is messed up. If you ask me - it's a flaw in objconv. I looked through most of the code by now and everything else seems fine. (could be related to different reloc handling in mach-o). But to be honest - osx or mach-o is nowhere near your target / planned features list and I neither have the time nor the fasm-guts to dig through the whole code to add a mach-o backend. So it looks like mac users are still dependent on this (possibly flawed, however working-fine-so-far) patched binary. I'm fine with that and most of us can resort back to a VM if hard comes to hard. so keep the thread sticky and most of us should be happy Cheers, Shirk P.S. - my vote for a fasm mach-o backend |
| 25 Sep 2012, 05:52 |
STLVNUB Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 | STLVNUB |
| 15 Dec 2012, 20:25 |
STLVNUB Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 | STLVNUB Weird, can compile and run fasm.asm with fasm, but try to compile for efi and back to 'out of memory' |
| 15 Dec 2012, 20:55 |
STLVNUB Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 | STLVNUB ok changed buffer rb 1000h in fasm.asm to buffer rb 4000h Now compiles efi |
| 15 Dec 2012, 21:45 |
STLVNUB Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 | STLVNUB Just compiled fasm.efi and works I should note that fast.asm for efi already had buffer set to 4000h so that appears to be the 'out of memory' bug |
| 15 Dec 2012, 22:12 |
STLVNUB Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 | STLVNUB OS X appears to need more buffer space as 1000h leads to 'Out Of Memory' errors and also leads to some examples that have buffer set to 1000h, getting errors too. Is there a reason why OS X needs bigger buffer space?? Of course, it won't work otherwise. So set the buffer to 4000h and you can do wonders. |
| 16 Dec 2012, 06:21 |
STLVNUB Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 | STLVNUB tools/libc/listing.asm is one example that now works. As well as compiling fasm and fasm.efi from newest sources. All this on Mountain Lion. Anybody interested??? Last edited by STLVNUB on 17 Dec 2012, 20:07; edited 1 time in total |
| 16 Dec 2012, 06:25 |
KevinN Joined: 09 Oct 2012 Posts: 161 | KevinN Yep, as soon as my monitor works again. And if i can get mountain lion up on a custom |
| 16 Dec 2012, 06:44 |
Mac Os Versions
KevinN Joined: 09 Oct 2012 Posts: 161 | KevinN I've got ML running now. it might be interesting to get fasm running I found a few OSX Nasm examples too. there was a quartz and an OPENGL one. and a boilerplated hello world http://michaux.ca/articles/assembly-hello-world-for-os-x http://forum.nasm.us/index.php?topic=1075.0 (OpenGL) |
| 22 Dec 2012, 16:36 |
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zab Joined: 28 May 2012 Posts: 6 | zab Hi guys, I hope that this thread is still alive! Following 'Shirk' excellent advices and tips, I successfully built FASM 1.70.02 on my OSX machines (32-bits and 64-bits). I want to share the binary with everyone interested on programming with FASM under OSX (see USAGE file). QUESTION for 'Tomasz Grysztar': 'Shrink' provided a patch (fasm-fix-out-of-memory-lion.diff.txt) which allow to compile FASM on OSX. Any chance to get it commited to FASM source code? Thanks Zab
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| 29 May 2012, 21:20 |
STLVNUB Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 | STLVNUB |
| 30 May 2012, 04:31 |
Shirk Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 10 | Shirk Uh, this got sticky - nice Apparently I'm back to my pet os project, back to fasm and we still need the patched version. (checked no path in 1.70.3 or 1.71 previews). Not sure if Tomasz reads this forum / has interest in the patch but big thanks to zab for providing the binaries! Maybe someone could mail him? |
| 24 Sep 2012, 17:03 |
Tomasz Grysztar Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 7873 Location: Kraków, Poland | Tomasz Grysztar I cannot approve such kind of fix. If that one relocation is processed incorrectly then the other relocations also cannot be trusted and it is inherently unsafe to try fixing it this way. One should rather search for the real source of the problem, that is the underlying bug related to relocations - and report it. |
| 24 Sep 2012, 17:21 |
Shirk Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 10 | Shirk Hi Tomasz, please don't get me wrong - my post was in no way meant to insult anyone. It was just written in a challenging tone to lure an answer out of you. I agree that the real fix would be to determine why this one relocation is messed up. If you ask me - it's a flaw in objconv. I looked through most of the code by now and everything else seems fine. (could be related to different reloc handling in mach-o). But to be honest - osx or mach-o is nowhere near your target / planned features list and I neither have the time nor the fasm-guts to dig through the whole code to add a mach-o backend. So it looks like mac users are still dependent on this (possibly flawed, however working-fine-so-far) patched binary. I'm fine with that and most of us can resort back to a VM if hard comes to hard. so keep the thread sticky and most of us should be happy Cheers, Shirk P.S. - my vote for a fasm mach-o backend |
| 25 Sep 2012, 05:52 |
STLVNUB Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 | STLVNUB |
| 15 Dec 2012, 20:25 |
STLVNUB Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 | STLVNUB Weird, can compile and run fasm.asm with fasm, but try to compile for efi and back to 'out of memory' |
| 15 Dec 2012, 20:55 |
STLVNUB Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 | STLVNUB ok changed buffer rb 1000h in fasm.asm to buffer rb 4000h Now compiles efi |
| 15 Dec 2012, 21:45 |
STLVNUB Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 | STLVNUB Just compiled fasm.efi and works I should note that fast.asm for efi already had buffer set to 4000h so that appears to be the 'out of memory' bug |
| 15 Dec 2012, 22:12 |
STLVNUB Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 | STLVNUB OS X appears to need more buffer space as 1000h leads to 'Out Of Memory' errors and also leads to some examples that have buffer set to 1000h, getting errors too. Is there a reason why OS X needs bigger buffer space?? Of course, it won't work otherwise. So set the buffer to 4000h and you can do wonders. |
| 16 Dec 2012, 06:21 |
STLVNUB Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 | STLVNUB tools/libc/listing.asm is one example that now works. As well as compiling fasm and fasm.efi from newest sources. All this on Mountain Lion. Anybody interested??? Last edited by STLVNUB on 17 Dec 2012, 20:07; edited 1 time in total |
| 16 Dec 2012, 06:25 |
KevinN Joined: 09 Oct 2012 Posts: 161 | KevinN Yep, as soon as my monitor works again. And if i can get mountain lion up on a custom |
| 16 Dec 2012, 06:44 |
Mac Os Versions
KevinN Joined: 09 Oct 2012 Posts: 161 | KevinN I've got ML running now. it might be interesting to get fasm running I found a few OSX Nasm examples too. there was a quartz and an OPENGL one. and a boilerplated hello world http://michaux.ca/articles/assembly-hello-world-for-os-x http://forum.nasm.us/index.php?topic=1075.0 (OpenGL) |
| 22 Dec 2012, 16:36 |
KevinN Joined: 09 Oct 2012 Posts: 161 | KevinN http://osxbook.com/blog/2009/03/15/crafting-a-tiny-mach-o-executable/ https://gist.github.com/1084476 http://www.feiri.de/macho/ http://seriot.ch/hello_macho.php looks like others have, and continue to play with macho-o. I think the above examples are good for understanding the bare minimum requirements for a macho32 and macho64. I just nasm assembled the second example off git and it works: 251 bytes on ML! hehe small enough to get to know macho bit by bit and byte by byte im trying to see if i can get some function out of tinycc on osx with objconv [edit: tinycc can be used same way fasm works with objconvert and ld. ld adds a lot of weight, probably a lot unnecessary.] Last edited by KevinN on 02 Jan 2013, 14:53; edited 6 times in total |
| 01 Jan 2013, 23:55 |
KevinN Joined: 09 Oct 2012 Posts: 161 | KevinN here are some gui programs used as tools to examine macho: http://sourceforge.net/projects/machoview/ http://www.affinic.com/?page_id=109 |
| 02 Jan 2013, 00:13 |
Mac Os Download
KevinN Joined: 09 Oct 2012 Posts: 161 | KevinN http://opensource.apple.com/release/developer-tools-45/ the source for cctools including ld, otool, as etc |
| 02 Jan 2013, 07:00 |
Shirk Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 10 | Shirk Nice analysis on mach-o so far -- I had a look into a fasm mach-o backend but tbh. couldn't find my way around mach-o 64. @STLVNUB - the buffer size problems could be a result of things like the additional alignment requirements and other features like these that Xnu enforces. |
| 19 Aug 2013, 10:01 |
alexfru Joined: 23 Mar 2014 Posts: 80 | alexfru I'm getting close to declaring official support of Mac OS X in my C compiler and just for the fun of it I made FASM executables out of fasm.o for Linux, Mac OS X and DOS/DPMI. I used my compiler's C library and two pages of simple asm & C code to translate names (leading underscores are used by default in my compiler), preserve regs (my compiler preserves only the obvious: EBP, ESP) and intercept fopen() (it should really be called with 'rb' and 'wb' and not 'r' and 'w') and gettimeofday() (not implemented in my library, not part of the C standard). The result seems to be working so far. I compiled a few C apps with my compiler instructed to use FASM in place of NASM. Btw, the DOS/DPMI version is somewhat 'cleaner' in that it does not try to use unreal mode. If anyone is interested I could share the code & instructions and the binary(-ies). |
| 16 Oct 2017, 10:22 |
alexfru Joined: 23 Mar 2014 Posts: 80 | alexfru So, it looks like my Smaller C compiler is working on Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) through Mac OS X 10.12 (Sierra). Here's how I turn fasm.o into various executables. Compiling for MacOS: Compiling for DOS/DPMI: Compiling for Windows: My compiler depends on NASM and the above asm code is for NASM, so you should have NASM 2.03 or newer if you want to recompile FASM using Smaller C and the above pieces of code. Smaller C should work out of the box on Windows and DOS, just include the path to v0100binw or v0100bind in %PATH%. On Linux and Mac OS X you can simply recompile the compiler, using the usual (you will need NASM already installed): On Mac you may see an error from readlink, but it should still work. I'm attaching the binaries. What else?. Feel free to poke around the compiler's library source for Mac OS X system calls. Ditto for the linker if you want to make 32-bit Mach-O executables by hand. Or you could just use the linker as-is.
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